XxBollWeevilxX Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 So I've been fiddling around with the live streaming to Twitch feature in Black Ops 2. I bought some cables, hooked up both my laptop and Xbox directly to my router to reduce wireless latency. Either way, and even if I completely disconnect my laptop so the ONLY thing connected directly to my network is my Xbox, I still get this crappy lagging stream that always says "buffering". http://www.twitch.tv/bollweevil12/b/372766852 EDIT: Can't figure out how to send the exact link, but if you go to the channel it's the most recent video, around 8 minutes long. I wasn't going for gameplay, I was just fiddling around. As I know some of you are really good with this, so I was wondering...do I really have THAT bad of an internet speed...I'm guessing I have around the same high-speed cable internet most of you guys would have. Is there a better way to do it, or is the live streaming feature just complete crap through the game's end? Thanks for any help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffypandaknight Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 you need at least 2 mbps upload, thats the absolute minimum cause the bit rate needs to be set at around 1300 for a some what smooth experience, if you want really smooth lag free cast, it needs to be 1800 or higher, mines set at 2500. The buffer and max bit rate should be the same. Every 1 mbps upload counts as 1000 bit rate, so if you have 3 mbps download, you need to set it around 1500. Just experiment with the numbers and youll hit a sweet spot. You can test your speed at www.speedtest.net edit: yep i ment upload haha, sometimes i derp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dateranoth Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Fluffy meant upload speed. And I don't have much experience with the built in live streaming of Black Ops on Xbox. What options does it allow you to set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBollWeevilxX Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 Okay so...I'm a bit lost at what you just said haha. Here's my results from there: As far as actual configuring Network settings, I don't know much about. The live stream feature doesn't have any options whatsoever. On the game, it's literally...live stream on/off. Camera on/off. Send to Facebook/Twitter. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffypandaknight Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Well you have plenty of internet, if your lagging using the cod thing, its probably the service or something. You might have to google and see if anybody has the same problem, but if you can, stream with a capture card and open broadcaster, that is if you have a desktop and not a laptop. Using programs built into the game to stream usually turns out bad, just like the planetside 2 one :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green grenades Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 how the hell do you have 10 upload, i barely hit 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffypandaknight Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 hey gg, what do you think of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBollWeevilxX Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 I dunno...that's what I don't get. I don't have a desktop, just my laptop. It's not a supercharged one but it's pretty darn good for pretty much everything I've needed, is that making a difference? Like I said the 360s hooked straight to the router. So I don't know. As far as a capture card, it's something I'm working on but again I have little knowledge on how to set it up. I was just trying to figure out if this was something on my network's end, something I can fix, or would getting a capture card potentially fix the issue completely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dateranoth Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Very unlikely it's your network. If I had to take a guess I would say the Xbox flat out can't handle the effort of rendering a game like black ops while also encoding it for live streaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeKnuckle Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Probably a beta program to make this feature more built-in for the next consoles. Pretty smart, actually. The devs can learn what needs to happen before they even launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBollWeevilxX Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 Thanks guys. Yeah the feature has been super buggy in general. Took a whole game update for them to actually get it to work at all for lots of people that were having issues. So you think an HD capture device would make live streaming more accessible? Any good ones you'd recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffypandaknight Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 you cant get capture cards for laptops but you can get external capture cards, they dont do super high quality but its quality non the less. If you want a capture card, youll need to have a desktop and if you dont have a desktop a good cheap one these days are 500 bucks, to build. If your serious about streaming and like it, then a desktop would be a very good investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeKnuckle Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 http://www.amazon.com/AVERMEDIA-C281-Capture-Record-resolution/dp/B005YR0M0W/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1362196997&sr=8-5&keywords=external+capture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dateranoth Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Black Magic make a USB Intensity Pro, but it's USB 3.0 only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBollWeevilxX Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 I don't have any USB 3.0 on my computer. And quite simply I don't have enough at this point in time to get another PC. There are no other options? What about the one PK posted....also, I haven't looked into the specs yet, but I've heard the HD PVR 2 is good (albeit it is extremely pricey)? Sorry and thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffypandaknight Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 i think 3.0 is backwards compatible? Sure youll lose speeds and quality, but i have no idea how much of a difference it makes. There seems to be guides on how to stream with the HD PVR 2, so it might be a good choice. You will have to research and google around to find one that fits your needs. I looked around for a little and the HD PVR looks pretty good although the price makes me iffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBollWeevilxX Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 Yeah. It's branded as being mainly for the PS3/360 though. I just know next to nothing about this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dateranoth Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I'm not sure about the 3.0 BMI being backwards compatible. If 2.0 isn't fast enough to handle the needed bandwidth it may not work. I'd check the system requirements. What are the specs on your laptop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBollWeevilxX Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 As far as...this is what the site says for the model I have. Operating SystemGenuine Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit) Physical Specification367.9 x 243 x 27.1 ~ 33mm (14.4" x 9.5" x 1.06" ~ 1.29")2.3kg (5.07lbs) Storage500GB S-ATAⅡ Hard Drive (5400RPM)Super Multi Dual Layer Communication10 / 100 / 1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN802.11 bg/n 1x1 (up to 150Mbps)Bluetooth 3.0 SecurityNorton Internet Security (60-day Trial)Kensington Lock SlotSamsung Recovery Solution ProcessorIntel® Core™ i5 Processor 2450M (2.45GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) GraphicIntel® HD Graphics 3000Shared with System Memory Main ChipsetIntel HM65 I/O PortVGA availableHDMI availableHeadphone-outMic-in availableInternal Mic available3 USB 2.04-in-1 (SD, SDHC, SDXC, MMC)RJ45 (LAN) availableDC-In (Power Port) available Power60 Watt40 Watt6 Cell (48Wh) Display15.6" HD LED Display (1366 x 768), Anti-Reflective Memory4GB DDR3 System Memory at 1333MHz (4GB x 1)2 DIMM Slots MultimediaHD AudioSoundAlive™3W Stereo Speaker (1.5W x 2)Web Camera Input Device103 Key104 Key SoftwareOS DVDSystem S/W MediaEasy Partition ManagerAdobe Acrobat ReaderSamsung Support CenterMicrosoft Office Starter 2010 WildTangent Game Console Windows LiveNorton Online Backup (30-day Trial)Cyberlink Media Suite Control CenterEasy Migration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dateranoth Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I would have to look into external capture cards but that PC should handle streaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBollWeevilxX Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 Ok. Thanks for the help. I'm a bit a noob at this...I made an attempt at it a long time ago but went about it the wrong way and now I actually want to do it right so any help is appreciated. I'm looking to get one probably within the next month, at the absolute latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dateranoth Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Looks like this should work for your laptop: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4994679&sku=H56-1480 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBollWeevilxX Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 One last thing...was looking at that link and also this one: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr2-gaming.html It talks a lot about how you need to hook it up to your PC to save the video, edit, etc. Would this also be usable for live streaming? I wouldn't probably be doing live streaming at first, but still would be helpful to know if I can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dateranoth Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hmm. Looks like I jumped the gun linking that. Doesn't seem to be supported by Xsplit free or OBS yet. I'll look into others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBollWeevilxX Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 I've heard some good things about El Gato. Know anything about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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