PeeKnuckle Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'm not hating on anyone. Just making sure Sega understands that the DLC is props (hats, skins etc) for your co-op player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevnvek Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SegaCKY Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Business is business and the point is to make money.Yeah, but at what point do companies stand to lose customers at the expense of making a higher profit? Companies like Valve and EA are starting to walk a very fine line between fan service and just being another faceless profit driven business. Its ultimately up to the customers to make it an issue, before these companies forget who made them and how they got there in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeKnuckle Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 That I can totally agree with. EA tries to drive in the spigot and suck you dry. However, you have to make that decision to purchase. With every new sports title, they'll have at least 4 pages of DLC to buff your teams with. You can earn those same buffs, or you can buy them. On the one hand, it's lazy and some just want the best on day one. On the other, though, there's people who can't devote many hours into unlocking that content for their favorite sports franchises, and want to unlock things to be able to compete online. Those are the people I wouldn't hate on. They're usually working full time jobs, have families etc. So in that respect, I can see it's a needed service for some.I'd never buy any of it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThermoNukePanda Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 That I can totally agree with. EA tries to drive in the spigot and suck you dry.Yup. Even though Kev found a "workaround" for me, EA is definitely the devil. Drove me insane for a while about the Online Pass/Bulletstorm/Gow3 Beta stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towncryer Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 How much profit is too much? lol. I've never heard of a company saying " That is too much profit. Price it down." We will either buy the DLC or not. Everything else is just pissing in the wind. This will take care of itself. In retail it always does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SegaCKY Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 And I don't feel disrespected or that we're even arguing, it's a healthy debate and fitting for us forum goers. Disagreement and perspective are what makes for great conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThermoNukePanda Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 How much profit is too much? lol. I've never heard of a company saying " That is too much profit. Price it down." We will either buy the DLC or not. Everything else is just pissing in the wind. This will take care of itself. In retail it always does.True, but the companies will continue "testing the waters" with what they can get away with. A great example of this is the stupid $15 DLC for Call of Duty MAP PACKS. Unfortunately, idiots buy them like crazy. Now it's the trend. I wouldn't be surprised to see it hit $20 next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeKnuckle Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 By the way, I'm that one guy who stopped playing RDR and refuses to buy the DLC pack with the tomahawk in it. My character has almost always been an indian, and he should spawn in with it automatically. The fact they used it as an incentive to buy the pack, made me upset. I don't need 10 multiplayer maps and I don't need 8 new skins. Just want the tomahawk my character should already have! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towncryer Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 And I don't feel disrespected or that we're even arguing, it's a healthy debate and fitting for us forum goers. Disagreement and perspective are what makes for great conversation.This ^^^^^^I was in a Sony chat room 2 days ago and people were debating back and forth about the identity fiasco. Some MILD ribbing and flaming was going on. Nothing that I saw out of line and the mods were all over it. The natural flow of a thread is essential to the forums, IMO, and I think we can agree that almost everyone here is respectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towncryer Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 By the way, I'm that one guy who stopped playing RDR and refuses to buy the DLC pack with the tomahawk in it. My character has almost always been an indian, and he should spawn in with it automatically. The fact they used it as an incentive to buy the pack, made me upset. I don't need 10 multiplayer maps and I don't need 8 new skins. Just want the tomahawk my character should already have! lolThen you have voted with your wallet. That's ONLY way it will work that I've seen. I get your point tho'. It's funny I was thinking of picking that game up used because I miss it! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towncryer Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 True, but the companies will continue "testing the waters" with what they can get away with. A great example of this is the stupid $15 DLC for Call of Duty MAP PACKS. Unfortunately, idiots buy them like crazy. Now it's the trend. I wouldn't be surprised to see it hit $20 next.It will organically level. That's the way of retail. It will never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SegaCKY Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 This ^^^^^^I was in a Sony chat room 2 days ago and people were debating back and forth about the identity fiasco. Some MILD ribbing and flaming was going on. Nothing that I saw out of line and the mods were all over it. The natural flow of a thread is essential to the forums, IMO, and I think we can agree that almost everyone here is respectful.That's why I love this place, disagreements are just that, disagreements. We don't have to go for the jugular to get our points across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spawn622 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Well don't get angry about it.Trust me, if I were mad or angry none of this discussion would be happening at all. I'm not saying you can't have your opinion, I'm just saying the logic behind it seems quite flawed from the outward view. I know we all have very strong personalities around here and no one is going to back down from their stance. Expecting that is an exercise in futility and rarely, if ever happens.My point is, people that complain about video games put them on a pedestal from any other product on the market that has these same types of things. We have just gotten used to the usual "up-sell" because they have been around for so long. Video game DLC has just gotten highly popular and is really in the infant stages of being fleshed out. Right, wrong, or indifferent the easiest way to look at it is like I said in my first reply: "Don't like it, don't buy it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeKnuckle Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Then you have voted with your wallet. That's ONLY way it will work that I've seen. I get your point tho'. It's funny I was thinking of picking that game up used because I miss it! lol.Assassin is trying to goad me back into the game. I've been resistant for so long, it's almost natural. He wants to level grind, though, so I might just hop on to help him. You should pick it up. It's a good game. I liked it a lot. Just not the tomahawk deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towncryer Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 That's why I love this place, disagreements are just that, disagreements. We don't have to go for the jugular to get our points across.Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThermoNukePanda Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Trust me, if I were mad or angry none of this discussion would be happening at all. I'm not saying you can't have your opinion, I'm just saying the logic behind it seems quite flawed from the outward view. I know we all have very strong personalities around here and no one is going to back down from their stance. Expecting that is an exercise in futility and rarely, if ever happens.My point is, people that complain about video games put them on a pedestal from any other product on the market that has these same types of things. We have just gotten used to the usual "up-sell" because they have been around for so long. Video game DLC has just gotten highly popular and is really in the infant stages of being fleshed out. Right, wrong, or indifferent the easiest way to look at it is like I said in my first reply: "Don't like it, don't buy it"I know. I was just throwing that out there though. It's definitely apparent we all have some VERY strong opinions and many of us can be very stubborn about our feelings. LoLThe only thing I take issue with is the idea about saying "we have just gotten used to the usual 'up-sell'". I'm not used to it, and I don't think I ever will be. I want to be treated well as a consumer, not feel nickel and dimed. I'm not saying it happens all the time, it just seems that is the way things are trending and I dislike it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeKnuckle Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 <embed src="http://cdn2.themis-media.com/media/global/movies/player/flowplayer.commercial-3.2.5.swf" flashvars="config=http://www.themis-media.com/videos/config/2794-fc89337433e068c6faae095bc5f6fb53.js%3Fplayer_version%3D2.5%26embed%3D1" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer" width="650" height="391" wmode="opaque"></embed> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylark95 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 ^ AWESOME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towncryer Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 That was excellent.^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeKnuckle Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Shame, though. It was made back in February of this year, and it's the first I've heard of it. Means the message didn't get passed around enough. =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towncryer Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I just watched like 7 or 8 of those in a row. Pretty good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dateranoth Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 That was an awesome video. Shame to see such passion and love for a medium fall to what it is now. Money changes everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThermoNukePanda Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Definitely an awesome vid I agree. It's a shame that EA de-evolved so much from their original vision.On a side note. Apparently the first DLC pack for Portal 2 will be free for all users. This makes me happy, since it actually adds content and not silly hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylark95 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Valve is usually pretty good at giving dlc for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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